When writing for my web suites, I make every effort to stay out of the discussions, but once in a while that becomes impossible due to some of the people with whom I come in contact in various ways. Using some of the words of Luke when he wrote to Theophilus, it seems good to write some of the experiences I have had dealing with unbelievers. They just aren’t unbelievers, but God haters who adhere to and promote evil; and they would like to censor those who oppose them, if they could, because they consider their ungodly beliefs far superior (maybe even themselves) to the godly beliefs held by others. They do not like being challenged for one simple reason. They cannot defend their beliefs so they use bluster and refuse to answer any questions they do not like. The arrogance they have is mind boggling.

Their words will be used but the writers will not be identified. Suffice it to say that their God hating comments are in the online edition of a Midwestern local newspaper. Though the article is not aimed at politics, some reference to political parties will be in the article due to the nature of the comments.

It is safe to say that those who comment do not know the Bible, do not believe in God or Christ, and consequently, that which they write is in opposition to all things holy. Anyone who uses the Bible or opposes them in any manner is immediately castigated with pejorative words, which not only show their vileness toward the writer, (this writer and others) they speak in the same vile manner about God as you will read in this article. The fact must be faced that these people live amongst us, spreading their hatred and wicked beliefs toward God and the Constitution to any who will listen to or read their leftist, Marxist ungodly ranting. They may be your neighbors, family members, friends, fellow workers and acquaintances, but they are some of the people who helped re-elect the nut job and they brag about their intelligence for doing so. The present day situation is not much different than what Jesus, the apostles and believers faced in their time.

The exchange with those who post began with a letter which in part stated: … that liberalism is bankrupt on every front — economically, morally, militarily. That a thoroughly corrupt and deeply ideologically flawed individual like Obama could be elected for four more years proves that America has completely lost its moral and intellectual compass. I posted a reply: [G]great letter! It is obvious from the comments that the left will always believe in Santa Claus. They can’t out grow the idea that government should give them stuff all paid for by those who earn their way. A link to an Article on WND was included in the post. http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/ten-commandments-judge-issues-wake-up-call/  I chose to dwell on the moral part knowing that the God haters who post on the forum would immediately take umbrage. They did, and one individual wrote in reference to WND and the article, Thanks, that site is a real hoot! Only owls hoot, and that poster is anything but wise and is a very useful idiot. However, that was mild and just the beginning of their ungodly ranting.

To set the scene for what follows, Paul’s message to the Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Paul was referring to the beliefs and practices of the ungodly that followed different gods and engaged in despicable behavior.

 Selected comments of the posters follow and they give insight to the reason for the wickedness being practiced in our governmental high places. The posts will begin with those who cannot grasp the connection of God to life: (1) How would this be relevant to a discussion of ideas pertaining to the real world? There will be more from this one who apparently seems to have the belief of being the sharpest tack in the box. (2) Why do your religious beliefs count for more than our beliefs? That one is from an admitted atheist who didn’t like being told about Jesus. (3) The next one is funny because of, you will see: Many, if not most of us, are high educated Democrats, or Libertarians, maybe even tree hugging Green Partiers. I would consider his rantings as mostly Christian fundamentalist. After all, stripping women of their rights is their provenance, not ours. High educated Democrats is not only an oxymoron, the word high should be highly, (so much for high education) And rantings isn’t a proper word, although many use it. It should be ranting, a noun, which can be a reference to a single rant or many rants. So much for being high(ly) educated Democrats the poster brags of so proudly.

One poster wrote, Liberals will celebrate their “progress” even as they go down in flames due to their liberal values. It was the same in Sodom and Gomorrah and so many other dying civilizations. Not only the Bible but the Koran and various other scriptures say the same thing. No wonder the libs booed God at the DNC. Next time, there won’t be any hubbub about leaving God out of the platform. The real hoot poster wrote, This is a lie, of course. (Should this have been that? What, one more sharp tack for the box?) I heard several replays of that part of the Democrat Convention and they did say no, which may have been boo, but the attempts to include God were shouted down and then they cheered when the proposed inclusion was defeated. With the God haters, truth is a lie and a lie is truth.

Now let’s go back to poster number one above. (1) I will tell you this, though. I would not worship any god until I had evidence of this god's existence and of its worthiness of my worship. Your fundamentalist genocidal lunatic of a god fails on both grounds, as I'm sure you know. No moral and thoughtful person would worship such a monster. (2) Explain why it is a good thing to worship an evil demonic space ape.  Now think of sharpest tack in the box as written above relative to the poster. More than likely the person is high[ly] educated Democrat. Do you see the hatred for God erupting from that person? Recall my words in the second paragraph: “Anyone who uses the Bible or opposes them in any manner is immediately castigated with pejorative words, which not only show their vileness toward the writer, (this writer and others) they speak in the same vile manner about God as you will read in this article. Poster number one wrote, What kind of a defect in character would lead people to tell as many lies as (name of another poster) and my name? What kind of a failure of basic human decency gives rise to this kind of mendacity? So for telling the truth, the other poster and I are mendacious. The poster would not answer when asked twice what god he or she worshipped. The refusal to answer, answers the question.

The posters were labeled pagans which set off a fire storm of protest. They just could not understand how they could be pagans due to their beliefs. The scriptures refer to the ungodly as ones who worship other gods and strange gods is used in 10 verses from Genesis 35:2 to Jeremiah 5:19. The modern word is paganism and since their god is in the White House, his power is government and his law is his executive orders. They worship abortion, homosexual conduct, homosexual marriage and other ungodly behaviors. Those are products of strange gods and that makes them pagans.

But, since they are extremely offended by the word pagan, let’s try the word heathen: Heathen, one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods: an irreligious or hedonistic person; Pagan a person who worships many gods or goddesses or the earth or nature: a person whose religion is paganism. Something tells me they won’t like that definition for themselves either.

 Now to apply the words of Deuteronomy 12:30 [T]take heed that you be not ensnared to follow them, after they have been destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire about their gods, saying, `How did these nations serve their gods? -- that I also may do likewise.´

31 You shall not do so to the LORD your God; for every abominable thing which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods. (RSV) The liberal God haters, say,  support and do the same things that God told his people not to do. Abortion can be likened to sacrifices of children to Molech (Leviticus 18:21); homosexual conduct (Lev 18:22 and the behavior in Sodom and Gomorrah.

The last two posters to be cited wrote concerning a political party: The Republican [P]party [sic] opposes the rights of gays to marry a person of their choice. It opposes the liberty of women to choose what to do with their bodies. It opposes access to contraception for all women, which would provide a degree of personal liberty we should embrace. Most of all, it seems more and more that the Republican [P]party only embraces liberties that are consistent with fundamentalist beliefs.

Let’s substitute the word believers for Republican. True believers do oppose gay marriage; true believers do oppose abortion; does anyone know any believer that opposes access to contraception? The opposition is taxpayer funding. Yes, believers do embrace liberties consistent with fundamentalist beliefs if those beliefs have a biblical foundation. The poster and many more similar do not like anyone to oppose their ungodly beliefs that actually are the result of worshipping all types of ungodly behavior.  They expect no opposition and insist that godly behavior is not only offensive to them, it is an insult to their high[ly] educated Democrat minds.

 Now to the last poster who wrote, They [Republican] just need to wrap their anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-youth, anti-poor, anti-middle class agenda in a prettier package. With a nice ribbon.  Remove the word they and think believers. The poster wants everyone to follow the paganism of the ungodly. Does mendacious fit the poster? Again, lies are truth with liberals. Maybe high(ly) educated Democrat fits as well.

It should be apparent that, as Paul wrote, spiritual wickedness is the problem. Their ideology cannot be changed, but perhaps some of their minds can be changed in due time. But we also must remember the words of Jesus in Luke 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. Since I can’t wipe the dust from my feet, the article will suffice for testimony against them. They are indicted by their own words.

Since one poster a few weeks ago wanted me banded from posting because of asking questions they could not answer and using facts that were lies according to the poster, it is fitting to end with the words of Paul in Acts 22:23 23  And as they cried out, and cast off their clothes, and threw dust into the air, 24 The chief captain commanded him to be brought into the castle, and bade that he should be examined by scourging; that he might know wherefore they cried so against him. By all means, kill the messenger when cornered by the truth. The posters cited here are numbered among the people that exist across the republic and they are the  ones who elected the nut job in the White House; and the downfall of our republic is on their hands due to promoting spiritual wickedness. Indeed, the nature of our battle is confronting the wickedness promoted by the ungodly.

Make no mistake when assessing the mentality of the left. They denigrate belief in God and support behavior that God tells us is sin. Only until believers confront those paragons of unholy behavior will change come to individual lives and our republic.  They do not like being reminded of God, much less confronted with the gospel. That simply infuriates them to the excesses of vituperative rage. When Paul preached the gospel to such people, they reacted against him. Then, in the face of adversity, Peter wrote the following message But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. (I Peter 3:15-16)  All believers must be ready to give an answer for the cause of Christ and his salvation whether the God haters like it or not

© 11-21-2012 DEC     

                    Read the article by Charlie Daniels. It is very good and to the point.

               http://cnsnews.com/blog/charlie-daniels/america-frog-pot-slowly-heating-water-thats-about-boil